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BeitragThema: Gender   Gender EmptySa Nov 28, 2009 2:19 am

Since this is such a growing topic (atleast throughout my part of the world) i belive it is something worth talking about, what do you think about it, should men and women have the same rights? AKA should men and women be payed the same at the work place? Should men help out more at home? and so on.... What is your opinion?


According to me, men and women should be payed the same, and men should help a bit more with household chores.......

But if they should have the same rights, shouldnt guys just have to stop veing the ones taking iniciatives?
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptySa Nov 28, 2009 9:04 am

It's hard to break from a culture where people have been indoctrinated in a certain way. Even if you break free from the stereotypical pie-baking-stay-at-home-mom and hard-working-dad, men and women will always be different. I mean, their bodies are differently attuned so there can never be true equality. Women are better-suited for underwater environments (I read this somewhere, I don't remember the specifics as to why) so if she was hired over a man, I don't think he should be angry because her body was simply better-suited for underwater living. Of course, this is if they had equal skills. If the woman was inadequate and the man wasn't, of course he should be chosen over her. But keep in mind that men and women are simply differently attuned, so if they get hired because of their bodies' abilities, so be it.

However, simply put, yes, men and women should be granted the same rights and opportunities.
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptySa Nov 28, 2009 10:10 am

Why is this even a question? Of course men and women should have equal rights.
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptySa Nov 28, 2009 11:39 am

WarHampster schrieb:
Why is this even a question? Of course men and women should have equal rights.

+Rep. Of course, equal rights also means equal draft opportunities.
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptySa Nov 28, 2009 1:07 pm

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It's hard to break from a culture where people have been indoctrinated in a certain way. Even if you break free from the stereotypical pie-baking-stay-at-home-mom and hard-working-dad, men and women will always be different. I mean, their bodies are differently attuned so there can never be true equality. Women are better-suited for underwater environments (I read this somewhere, I don't remember the specifics as to why) so if she was hired over a man, I don't think he should be angry because her body was simply better-suited for underwater living. Of course, this is if they had equal skills. If the woman was inadequate and the man wasn't, of course he should be chosen over her. But keep in mind that men and women are simply differently attuned, so if they get hired because of their bodies' abilities, so be it.

However, simply put, yes, men and women should be granted the same rights and opportunities.

QFT

I agree with everything in this statement.
Yes the should have equal rights... but in the terms of pay..
there are so many other variables apart for man and woman.
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptySa Nov 28, 2009 3:16 pm

This is a question cause its a big issue, and we are the smartest people around (yes we beat obama to the pie) and therefore we should talk about it...


But in tjhe case that mena and women have the same right...how would dating and all this that guys are supposed to be nice and pay for the dinner/movie/and so on?

would that disolve in a truly equal society?
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptySa Nov 28, 2009 7:03 pm

Thats a good question... hmm. I guess I would say that stuff like that isn't really important or relevant, but in a truly equal society it would be done away with.
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptySa Nov 28, 2009 10:27 pm

Hence my argument that there can never be true equality between men and women. There will always be differences, and we can only do what is our humanly best.
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptySa Nov 28, 2009 10:33 pm

no, that kind of thing is traditional propaganda that will not just simply
disappear from equal rights, it may in time be something that disappears.
It's like why do non-christens(like myself) celebrate christmas?
It's just something that is done regardless.
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptySo Nov 29, 2009 7:33 am

We non-Christians (or in my case, atheists) celebrate Christmas because presents. And it's fun. And I don't plan to get rid of it.
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptySo Nov 29, 2009 8:22 am

Im with paul, holidays were you get free stuff or presents must be preserved at all cost!
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptySo Nov 29, 2009 3:28 pm

"because presents" is a good justification for anything Very Happy
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptySo Nov 29, 2009 6:29 pm

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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptySo Nov 29, 2009 10:09 pm

Please don't derail threads.
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptyMo Nov 30, 2009 1:17 am

Yeah also christmas is also celebrated through tradition, even if the true(original) reason is now no longer in play(or in this case is no longer the main reason people do it.)

Also who was the dick that pressed the minus on pauls post?
It was a very good post >.>
and I would like hear your views on this subject?
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptyMo Nov 30, 2009 5:18 pm

I'm being defended?



??!?!
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptyMo Nov 30, 2009 8:10 pm

I thought it wasn't possible...
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptyMo Nov 30, 2009 8:45 pm

Paul has the highest reputation!? Do my eyes deceive me?
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptyDi Dez 01, 2009 12:01 am

Paul Supanich schrieb:
I'm being defended?



??!?!

not exactly I'm defending your post Wink
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptyDi Dez 01, 2009 4:46 am

well for paul it was a very good post cheers
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptyDi Dez 01, 2009 7:31 am

I'm feeling complimented, insulted in ways that only people who are holding grudges can, and the center of THREAD DERAILMENT.

Get on topic. >:U
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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptyDi Dez 01, 2009 12:38 pm

Not much to debate here (there shouldn\'t be)... everyone is just agreeing with one another.

As for the scuba-diving thing - that isn\'t based on gender at all. The military is different however...


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BeitragThema: Re: Gender   Gender EmptyDi Dez 01, 2009 12:41 pm

uhh... well I'm still kinda on topic, because the whole point I was defending you is because I want to hear the views of the person who -ve your post.
They obliviously has a different opinion on it.
Either that or they are just a douche.
I'm interested either way.

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Not much to debate here (there shouldn't be)... everyone is just agreeing with one another.
not the person that -ve pauls post.
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